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bobinduck

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well according to the state of california parks div. information dept. ilsanjo was drained inadvertently and they are hoping the spring rains will raise the level wtf.

pray for rain?
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Yeah that's b.s. man what's up with all the fish in there the county or state better shock the lake and pull all of them out and put them in Spring
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this is a terribel story. From what i heard, they opened the storm drain to make sure they had the ability to drain the lake if needed. then once opened, they were unable to shut it. It was open for hours and someting like 35% of the lake was drained b4 they got it shut. It is a terrible story that the park and ragners wont really answer. I think that a truck should get up there quick and take out half of the fish since they pretty much took half of their waters. No tullies are in the water now, i feel that the spawning attempts for those bass will SUCK, and when they go even shallower, the cormorants and ospreys will have a field day.

the only good thing that can possible come from this is that some of this fish are thinned out, and maybe they will put some florida strains in there. but this is a sad story, and something that i feel the park is just blowing off, and hoping that nobody notices.

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Well they (the state) wont do it on there own
im sure of that so...
how can we put pressure on them to say....
restock at least may be next year....
who do we call, wright,or email?
any of you guys lawyers?
married to a lawyer?
know a lawyer?
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i know a couple lawyers in the family, but i think we got some preliminary research to go through first. start with the park rangers and move up the ladder would be my guess.
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well heres my plan as of now im going to write a letter to the editor
try to got a few more people upset other than just fisher persons
write to one Caryl o Hart of sebastapol who is on the parks commission board(the closest member to us)
and my state rep (whoever that is)
maybe thats a start

man my typing finger is going to be sore


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I'm just looking for the silver lining in the cloud. I read about how back east there where several reservoirs that had been drawn down buy 40% or more. This had been nothing short of a resurrections for the reservoirs. The fish became bigger with higher numbers of fish. Some how the drying of the shore line makes it more productive.

A perfect example of this is Spring Lake. About 4-7 years after it was drained you start to see the results. Bigger fish and numbers of fish. A Bass's life span in around 12-17 years. That is when you will see the true full size of fish from the lake peak out.

I would like to see them not put the Florida strain into the lake. I really like the fact that the lake can be a numbers lake. With this draw down we will probably see some size and numbers coming in the next few years. We may even see a 8-9lb Norther strain bass come from there.

That is my two scents.
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haha, you know how many fishermen have told me they stuck 10 lb fish out of sanjy? i call BS but hey i dunno....i hope your right dale, i love that numbers, but would be nice to stick a 6-7 of those 30 fish you can catch a day. i might head up there tomorrow.
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there ain't no 10 pounder in that pond, shoot there is not even a 10 pounder in fountain grove just numbers lakes. But i have heard of sripers in the Grove
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i caught a 9, 4 years ago in grove, there 10's trust in that
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miguel

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sh!t i fished it for about 7 years and that's about all i got my biggest was around 5.75 maybe 6, that lake is going to go to sh!t once all that construction is done then im going to have to find a new lake/pond
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Some clarification regarding this debacle...

The park service commissioned a project in 2004/2005 that "repaired" the manual drainage valve at the dam and dredged/cleared the overflow area in the north/west corner of the lake that drains down to Spring Creek which forks before continuing into Spring Lake and the creek along Parktrail Drive. I did some research (via Google) and found some documents discussing trail erosion and sediment movement in geological surveys and watershed studies for our area. How these studies are linked to the drainage of the lake in recent years (below healthy levels for aquatic wildlife) is not yet known.

I mountain bike and hike in the park 3 times a week and fish in my float tube a few times a year so have seen this situation play itself out from the beginning. The drainage valve at the dam is opened in the fall and left open until early spring. The first year this was attempted, after the construction work was done, the water level was properly left at a natural and appropriate level. Last year the water level was drained too low and the dry spring did not fill it back to a normal level. The water remained more stained than usual throughout the summer. The valve was again opened in the fall and despite the lake being nearly full at the end of the January storms the drain was left open despite the lack of rain in late February and all of March. The level now is the lowest I have seen it in the nearly 30 years I have been going up there.

I, and some friends of mine, have had several conversations with Ranger Bob who is responsible for Annadel State Park. He has indicated that the drainage valve was *not* broken as was rumored to be the cause. This, of course, implies that the lake was knowingly and willingly drained... though the purpose or benefit is still unclear. Other than the water district reports/studies regarding sediment flows into the Russian River I can find no <online> references to why the lake and park are being managed as they are.

Many of us are writing letters and calling the district superintendent to express our outrage at this seemingly destructive policy. Contact information is as follows:

Mary Pass
Superintendant, Silverado District
363 3rd St. West
Sonoma, CA 95472

707-939-2147 (office)
831-245-5866 (cell?)
mpass@parks.ca.gov (unconfirmed email address)

If you write a letter also include a CC: to Marta Hastings who is a resource ecologist who has apparently been a part of the decision-making process regarding trail erosion, water level management, and soil/sediment issues. I could not find any direct contact information for Ms. Hastings.

Please note that according to the CA state parks website Mary Pass was promoted to her current position in April 2007 and was therefore not in charge of the project that modified the lake in 2004/2005 but she *was* in charge of the terrible drainage of the lake this spring/winter.

The park website also lists the following contact info for our area:

http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=24248

Diablo Vista District
845 Casa Grande
Petaluma, CA 94954-5804
(707) 769-5652

You can also send an email to the park service's general information contact at info@parks.ca.gov

Added pic of the drain valve at the dam below...[IMG][/IMG]

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Im emailing the the editor of the democrat tonight
I wrote carol migden and dan huffman our state reps letters go in the mail tomorrow
and i emailed kpix 5 to see if they thunk its a news story
if they dont ill go to the other channels one by one any other ideas out there.
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good info mindseye ill be working those avenues also
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I encourage everyone to send a letter and/or call Mary Pass at the park service about this. Contacting the media or elected officials would be a good idea as well.
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