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You guys have already heard my thoughts on this but I would like to add a couple of things. I have a special place in my heart for SCBBBC and I always will. This club and more importantly its members like Rich Caro, Mike Bogges, Billy the kid, Jay Bryant, etc. (to many to mention, sorry) are the reason I am where I am today in my fishing career. I could go on and on but these are the guys that helped me win over 150,000 dollars (2 boats included) as a non-boater. I am so humbled by their generosity. SCBBBC is what a bass club is all about. There is no way I could have done it without their help! These guys will tell you when I joined the club in 1994 I had 2 rods. I had never thrown a crankbait, spinnerbait, rattle trap, etc.. I was known for throwing a Berkley Power lizard all the time. I am not kidding! I learned so much from these guys and I still do. I will always appreciate where I came from and I try and show the respect these guys and the SCBBBC deserve. I have even continued to support the club with my membership dues, even though I knew I could not fish any of the tournaments, because this club and its members are my roots. I also enjoy speaking at the club meetings and sharing information. The reason I have had the success I have been blessed with is in no small part because of the help I got from members of this club when I first started. SCBBBC is the grass roots of any organization. What this club gives us is the opportunity to advance. Whether you choose to take that route is completely up to you. I don't know if I would ever choose to fish full time. It is a very hard road and I have a tremendous amount of respect for the guys who do. This club has given me and any other SCBBBC member the opportunity to fish in the BASSMASTERS CLASSIC. Just making it to the BASS Federation Nationals is a tremendous accomplishment and I am truly blessed to have made it there.
 
Have you ever read what KVD, IMHO the best tournament bass angler of all time, said about the BASS Federation and trying to make it to the Classic? He said it was way too hard and went through the BASS Opens! He tried to go the Federation way and could not do it! That is the opportunity we have as SCBBBC members! It is our choice if we want a chance at that opportunity or not. I encourage you all to try. I look at it like the lotto with better odds. You are not going to even have a chance to win if you don't play. The state tournament is an OPPORTUNITY. That's it. If you don't want to do it then that is your decision. I would encourage you to fish it though. You never know what you are capable of until you try. The game we play, and that is exactly what tournament bass fishing is, is all about attitude. You will only lose if you don't try.

 

Feel free to contact me if you need any help or want information about fishing these types of tournaments or anything else. I will help out when and where I can. That is what being a SCBBBC member is all about. Good luck with your decision.

 

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To All who read this ... Thanks for your input Pat, but Ive only seen you at one tournement this year ... Nice way to support the club right? Rich, if you want to fish this tournement at Shasta then go, take a gooseegg for YOUR clubs clear lake tournement. Its a throw out anyway right? Good luck in Shasta. But, dont change the date just so you can go to another tournement. You have an adjenda to fish BASS?, some of us are just happy and grateful to be able to fish OUR club. Some of us are not looking for the big brass ring in the sky ... Maybe you should step down from your roll as president and go fish the tournements you want, but please dont change MY clubs schedual to suit your wants or needs... Werent you the one that fought Sacramento to get the permits for running and for the schedual dates? Funny you want to change the schedual to suit your and the select others needs ... Dont get me wrong, Im all for a democracy but these dates were selected by THE CLUB MEMBERS at the beginning of the year. Ive had reserves every month, and last year had to miss a few tournements because of schedualing conflicts with the federal government. Did any of you offer to change the dates for me? NO. Take your lumps, make the choice for YOURSELF and understand there are consequences for the choices you make weather you are the president of the club or just a paying member. We all have to make choices of whats important to us. So good luck with your choice, but dont make my choice for me by changing the schedual that we all voted on at the beginning of the year. We, the club have already taken their vote for the dates. Vacation, work, home scheduals have been made to revolve around the current set schedual. Unless HALF of the club is going to Shasta, then this should not even be an issue. You put in the forum the dates for shasta, and several members showed an interest. Fine KEY WORD SEVERAL...NOT ALL or even HALF of the paying members. You remember the paying members? the ones that keep SCBBBC going?

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Wow, some unnecessary barbs are being thrown around here. Mike, I understand that you might be upset about the proposed vote for a date change but there really is no need to call out Rich and Pat. Rich has always done an outstanding job as our President. He works tirelessly to make this club the best it can be. To call for him to step down is a tad harsh at best and is completely uncalled for. I don't believe Rich has an ulterior motive for the change but is merely asking for us a, BASS Club to support our State's Tourney. Nothing more, nothing less.Pat has always been a club member regardless if he participates in our tourneys or not! He is a PAID member! He's always upfront and helpful and we can only learn from someone as accomplished as him for advice. When I fished my first FLW this year, I was a little bit overwhelmed but guess what, Pat was there and he helped put things into perspective. I am grateful that he did this.

But we must remember, this is merely a request for a vote to change the date or a tourney so that other members be it 1 or 40 can have a chance to participate in the Federation Nation State Tourney. That's it!

If the vote is not to change it, Rich has already stated that he would miss the SCBBBC tourney to fish at Shasta for a chance to make it to the Classic. The mecca of tourney fishing to some but not all.
If the vote is to change it, then it will be done with the approval of the MAJORITY of the club. As previously stated, I am not in favor of the date change, but recognize that we vote as a club and majority rules. Always have been and always will be.

The bottom line is this topic was simply a proposal for a vote to change a tourney date. We had a vote for a venue change already this year and the will of the members won out to the dismay of others but guess what, dissenting members still came out to compete because at the end of the day, this club is all about the camaraderie and competition.

Sorry so long, but felt it had to be said. Let's keep it nice and cordial please.

Terry

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DUDE what is going on here? all rich asked was to put it to a vote not that he is changing the date. mike your way out of line telling rich to step down, this club would be nothing if it wasnt for rich, HE did start the club. iv been in the club since jimmy was fishing with use, in the early 90's and rich has done nothing but make it a hundred times better, back then we only had maybe 15 guys show up and because of rich look how many we have now. there is no reason to call out mister split-shot lizerd man(pat) he is just giving his impute just like everyone else, he started fishing the club right after i did. i do agree with you that the dates were set already and should not be changed.


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Im not calling out anyone. Im just saying leave it the way it is. No changes. You want to go fish another tournement, then fine, go, but dont change the clubs schedual.

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Easy there Cowboy, Mike that's way un-called for! Shame on you!

This was just a proposal in the first place not a demand.
 
Rich we all still love you, don't let this stuff get to you! Without you we are not even a club this year and we are all behind you 100% 

Damn we should all pitch in to help you pay to fish Shasta!  to represent SCBBBC.

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Im sorry you think that I am such an ass, but Rich does not make the club. Without the paying members there wouldnt be a club ... maybe we should all remember this. I think that this is an issue. I think that everyone is grateful that RICH founded this club. Thats without saying. Im here to fish SCBBBC. And as a paying member, I dont want my schedual being changed by the wants of a few.  If you have such a problem with me voicing my OPINION, then vote me out next meeting.

Have a nice day ...

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Mike, No that's fine that you voice your opinion! And i encourage it. But I'll say this and this goes for everyone that posts or writes email on the net. Most people reading email or posts seem to take written words different ways and that's just the way it is. Everyone reads into things different, so when posting something on line you really need to think about how some people might not read it as you intended it to be and rewrite it so everyone see it the same. that's just the way it is on the net and always will be.  


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Wow, I just have to chime in here.  Let me say that I want to fish shasta. I really do.  I also said if it was up to a vote my vote is for the majority.  Rich only made a suggestion and we can put it up to a vote.  Now mind you Mike, a bunch of people made it a big deal about fishing Middle River.  It was put to a vote and the majority made the decision to fish White.  I was oppose to it and that we should stick to the schedule.  In the end I ended up fishing it anyway.  In that case majortiy rule.  So the suggestion of changing the date is all that is a suggestion.  It will be put to a vote.  Whatever the outcome will be it will be majority rule.  If the date is not change then it will be up to Rich, me, and maybe a few other people to make a decision to fish it or not.

What Pat and Rich is trying to say is that if we love fishing tournaments.  Then this is just a stepping stone to a different circuit.  For some of us, especially me, I would like to take my fishing to the next level.  Last year and part of this year Jay and I did the Won Bass Team circuit.  When we picked out the schedule for Scbbbc.  I did not say anything about my schedule to the club officers.  I know Rich, John, an Matt can confirm that.  I did not use my position to influence any of the officers to pick the dates around my schedule.  I let it be and if it was a conflict.  I would have to make a decision to fish it or the club.  So Rich is not using his influence nor is he trying to sway people to change the schedule.  Him and Pat is just saying here is the only opportunity for anyone of us to take it to the next level.  That is all they are saying.  If you're content fishing the club then that's pretty much it.  As for some of us, we would like to see what else we can do, but never at the expense of someone else.  The officers did their best in picking the date to accommodate everyone.  The dates for the Fed tournament was not picked.  If it was picked out beginning of this year then i don't think we will be having this debate. 

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Rich, I would vote for you to be president of the United States of America.  You questioned what the reasons for growth of the club has been. Well, the answer to me has been Skeet and Jim Reece, Pat Wilson and Rich Caro.  Do you realize you can open a Bass master and see any one of those names. 
For me, only being able to fish 6 hours at Clear lake is torture, but if the club as a majority votes to change the date than so be it. In fact my vote will be to change the date.  The new date will be tough for me, but I feel a debt of gratitude to everyone in this club who has taken the time out to help me set up my pontoon, and who has given me tips and tricks out how and what to look for when fishing, or even to the guy who reminded me to stop pointing my head lamp at the bank.  I caught my only two fish at Yorty once he did that. Let's just vote and move on with it.  Thanks Rich for everything you have done over the last 25 years.

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MIKE, A STUD FROM THE CLUB, TAKES THIS CLUB SERIOUS. THIS EVENT MEANS THE CLASSICS TO HIM AND HE TOLD ME STRAIGHT OUT " MY GOAL IN THE CLUB IS TO MAKE IT TO ALL THE EVENTS THIS YEAR "
THATS ALL HE SAID DURING THE WAY TO AND WAY BACK FROM THE FIRST TRIP TO SONOMA.

RICH, A GREAT GUY AND CONTRIBUTOR TO THE CLUB, WANTS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IN CLUB INCLUDING HIMSELF FEEL LIKE WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. HE WANTS US TO GO TO THE BIG TIME CLASSICS. HE IS ONLY GIVING A CHANCE TO LET THE MEMBERS HAVE AN OPTION/OPINION IN THE SCEDULE.

NO ONE IN THE CLUB SHOULD TAKE ANYTHING OFFENSIVE IN THE CLUB...

unless I beat you guys in the next 4 tournaments...hahahahaahah


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“Thanks for your input Pat, but Ive only seen you at one tournement this year ... Nice way to support the club right?”

 

I guess my “support” in 2008 in the way of paying my club membership dues, representing the club in the 2008 BASS Federation Nation Western Divisional, representing the club in the 2008 BASS Federation Nation Nationals, representing the club in a future BASS Times article, helping club members with information when I am asked is not a “nice way to support the club” according to what I am understanding is being said here. Any ideas of what is going on in my life right now? Maybe I have a very personal reason I could only fish one SCBBBC tournament so far this year. Also who answered a request for a place to stay last year for the 2007 Federation Nation State Tournament by a SCBBBC member? I guess that wasn’t a “Nice” way to support club members either.

 

Thanks for reminding me why I had previously stopped posting.

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“Thanks for your input Pat, but Ive only seen you at one tournement this year ... Nice way to support the club right?”

 

I guess my “support” in 2008 in the way of paying my club membership dues, representing the club in the 2008 BASS Federation Nation Western Divisional, representing the club in the 2008 BASS Federation Nation Nationals, representing the club in a future BASS Times article, helping club members with information when I am asked is not a “nice way to support the club” according to what I am understanding is being said here. Any ideas of what is going on in my life right now? Maybe I have a very personal reason I could only fish one SCBBBC tournament so far this year. Also who answered a request for a place to stay last year for the 2007 Federation Nation State Tournament by a SCBBBC member? I guess that wasn’t a “Nice” way to support club members either.

 

Thanks for reminding me why I had previously stopped posting.

Pat please don`t let the typed words of one individual stop you from posting or being affiliated with the club.I for one have appreciated all your words of wisdom in your seminars and postings about fishing and I`m sure 99.9% of the members in the club do as well.You`ve always been there to represent and help the club one way or another and the club appreciates it and is very proud and honored to have you as a member trust me!If I knew this was going to be the outcome I would have deleted this mess immediately,I was hoping it was going to work out without me butting in for once. 
Lets please save anymore comments on this subject of moving the tourney for the meeting and for those that can`t make it I would suggest you either call an officer or pm one to express your feelings.
Thanks Bill

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YES PAT, PLEASE DON'T FEEL THAT WAY. I have only met you a couple of time and maybe you might not remember me. I however remember the first time I met you.  It was at the 2002 Bass Open and not even knowing who you were.  You were giving me advice on how to fish the back of the boat.  After that, Todd leaned over to me and said you know who that was "That's Scbbbc Back DeckPro."  I was like wow I just talk to the back deckpro.  Till this day I have always wanted to be as successful as you in the back of the boat. 

SO KEEP ON POSTING AND LIKE BILL SAID 99.9% OF US APPRECIATE IT MORE THAN YOU THINK.

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